Phase 1: Immersion and Heisig

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Posted by Ramen Fanatic on 2 May 2010 17 Comments

This is the beginning of it all. I can see it now, the long treacherous fun yet challenging path ahead! It is time to take the first step and begin Phase 1 of Operation: Complete Immersion(like something out of a movie ;) ).

Immersion

The very first thing I started doing when I first began learning Japanese, which was only months ago, was to begin collecting Japanese “resources”. A resource to me isn’t defined by something that is meant to teach you, though it might be something that teaches, but it is something that you learn from directly or indirectly. What do I mean? Well, Khatzumoto from AJATT summed it up best:

Anyway, as I see it, language is not an act, nor is it a skill; it cannot be possessed. Language is a habit. You don’t “learn” a language as such, you live it. You don’t need to get “good” at language, you get used to it. You don’t become fluent at a language, you become it.

Therefore, even though the NDS is for Video Games and enjoyment, it actually falls under “Edutainment” which is a term I use referring to things that are entertaining yet educational. Same goes for Japanese Manga, Movies, Music, etc. Now that I’ve explained this all to you, let me go ahead and list off some of the items I’m starting my journey off with, so you have an idea of what you might want to buy, as well as an idea of what all I’m using “behind the scenes”. ;)

Note: Some of these items are not in the picture, I can’t fit everything in there!

Also, I have way more books than this but this is what I plan to use for now. :)

  1. Books
    1. Doraemon (Manga)
    2. Akira (Manga)
    3. Pluto (Manga)
    4. Hiragana Times (Magazine)
    5. Japanese in MangaLand (Study Book)
    6. Remembering the Kanji (Study Book)
  2. Flashcards (For practicing my Kanji when at work, etc)
  3. NDS (Simply to be able to play Japanese games. Of course, you’ll need a tool to do that… )
  4. Microsoft Zune (So I can listen to Japanese music all day at work)
  5. Ear buds (Much better than a headset so you don’t get strange looks when walking around in stores)
  6. Sake & Japanese Beer (This enhances the learning experience! No really… more fun = more knowledge, trust me)
  7. RAMEN! :D   (Need I say more?)
  8. Japanese Movies & Anime (You’ll enjoy it, plus if you turn off subs, you’ll begin picking  up words)
  9. Japanese Tutor (Don’t pay attention to this. I’m not going to be taught in a normal fashion, my tutor that I will be starting soon is simply going to be conversational practice. Nothing you couldn’t get from hanging out at Japanese restaurants. I just have limited time during my days so a tutor is a good way to have a conversation when I want, about what I want. ;) )

That pretty much covers most of it. Anything else I’ll end up posting about another time. In fact, I’ll probably post more in detail about a lot of things in the future anyway, so don’t sweat it.

Just remember, the main idea of this goal is to be doing something in Japanese at all times. That means that if you’re working(like most of us have to do), you’re listening to Japanese with your Mp3 Player if at all possible, you’re using your flashcards every time you go to the bathroom(yes, I really do this), etc.

Heisig: Remembering the Kanji

Remembering the Kanji is a book published by a man named James Heisig. Most of you out there that have already done any sort of self-study in Japanese have most likely heard of this book and know what it’s concepts are. However, for those of you who haven’t, here is a brief explanation:

So essentially the idea of how to “best” learn Kanji according to the Heisig method is to:

  1. Study Kanji in a particular order (Learn Kanji that are similar to each other and use mostly radicals or other Kanji you’ve already learned)
  2. Learn the meanings of the Kanji at this point, not the readings
  3. Focus on seeing the “word” and then being able to draw the Kanji out from memory
  4. Memorize Kanji via images and stories, not by it’s associated word
  5. Use SRS(Spaced Repetition System) utilities to space out your Kanji (not necessarily a Heisig method, but it’s what everyone uses along with Heisig)

Now for what I am going to do:

  1. Use Remembering the Kanji(RTK)
  2. Use ANKI as my SRS utility
  3. Finish RTK by Aug 1st

So there it is, that is my current path! Essentially I’ll be finishing RTK in a total of 3 months. That means I need to do roughly 23 Kanji a day, but instead I’ll be attempting to do 25 a day or so in case I need a few days to take a break and simply go over what I’ve already learned, without learning any new material that day.

Immersion is something that never ends, while I may eventually learn all of the Kanji in RTK and move onto others(Kanji learning shouldn’t stop either ;) ), I won’t ever say “Well, that’s it, I’m done immersing.. go me..”. It just doesn’t work like that, so I’ll be adding new Japanese music to my collection, watching more Japanese movies, reading more Japanese manga, etc until my brain gives out. :D

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  • white master

    hmmm... shouldn't you be in Phase 3 by now?

    How is all of this going? Are you so busy learning Japanese that you don't update your blog, or did you just end up buying a bunch of Japanese shit to convince yourself that that was the same thing as studying?

  • Sakura No Rounin

    Wow... That's just... Nonsensically rude.

  • J1979c

    Yes you're right. The whole daily routine stuff really helps a lot. After watching 80+ dramas at least twice each and try to not read the subtitles as much as possible, JLPT listening test is a piece of cake now.

    Need to start the heisig method soon and probably the Sake/Japanese Beer thing... 乾杯! :)

  • Pinkhanarep

    What do you read/play on your DS? I'm looking for more games or software for my DS (I already bought the Kanji Sonomama dictionary that is worth it's weight in gold!) becuase I'd like to study at work : )

  • Yvonne

    Do you recommend the Japanese in Mangaland series? Good luck on your studies, by the way!

  • Guest

    Hi Yvonne,

    Nobody answered you?! Well, if you are still reading...I have all the books in the series. I like them. I'll try to tell you what you won't like and then what you will like. The bad...There are a lot of typos in the books. For example, in the first kanji book there is a place where they intended to write something about a pretty baby (kirei na akambou) and instead they wrote hated baby (kirai na akambou) and in the first study book chapter on adverbs page 156, there is a sentence that is supposed to used the kanji for far 'fast' (speed/distance not time) 速 but instead it uses the kanji for 'far' 遠. As you can see, they are somewhat similar. Especially when the font is small or muddy. If you can't see the difference in the print here, I'll explain it. In 'far' the little character is drawn like tsuchi (earth) and in 'fast' it is drawn like juu (ten). And there is an extra little line where your last stroke for the character is in 'far.'

    I am a pre-intermediate so the mistakes don't hang me up too badly. They just usually set me back for a second while I go, wtf and then I see they made a mistake.

    Another bad thing about the books is that the cartoons are really not so great. I don't find the cartoons to be really very interesting.

    Now here is the good things about the books. The font or printing in the books is very clear and nice (except for the dakutens). You can easily discriminate the kanji characters so in the book you can clearly see the difference between 'far' and 'fast' (speed). The dakutens are hard to read in the example words in the kanji book. That is because the example words are printed very small. So it can be hard to see whether it is a 'ba' or a 'pa' character. I'm nearsighted so when that happens, I take off my glasses and hold the book to my nose. Other people might need a little magnifier.

    The other good thing about the books are that the grammar explanations are very clear and very organized. That is why I am using them. I have self-studied so there are some holes in my learning. The mangaland books are clearing up some questions that I had. And there is the intangible of whether a book overall gives you a good feeling and makes you want to keep opening it up and studying. A book could be great but if you don't want to learn from it then it doesn't matter if it is great. I like using the Mangaland books so I keep moving on to the next chapter or the next book. Which means I keep learning something.

    By the way, I don't know if you know this but the series so far has Japanese in Mangaland 1, 2, and 3, practice workbook 1 (to match text 1), and kanji books 1 and 2. Kanji book 3 is in the hands of the publisher as I understand it and should be released sometime in 2011. Kanji book 1 teaches first and second grade kanji. Kanji book 2 teacher third and fourth grade. I think kanji book 3 is going to teach fifth and sixth. That is all the kanji for the jlpt 2 but if you are trying to pass the jlpt 2, then I don't think the series would be enough for you to do it. You would have to also read newspapers or get books that have a lot of reading sections in them so you can practice actually reading Japanese and seeing kanji in context. The Kanji in Mangaland books don't provide that.

  • Guest

    I should have proofread. This "in the first study book chapter on adverbs page 156, there is a sentence that is supposed to used the kanji for far 'fast' (speed/distance not" is supposed to read like this "in the first study book chapter on adverbs page 156, there is a sentence that is supposed to used the kanji for 'fast' (speed/distance not..."

  • While I (officially) started my Japanese study back in November (been watching the Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood anime since last June :) ), I managed to complete RTK in 109 days...but then I stopped reviewing (got busier with school and other stuff). Now I'm using my extra time during summer break to ramp up the studying, mostly by doing sentences, reading manga, watching ドラマ and 映画 ... and re-doing RTK! Though you have about 3 weeks of a head start on me, I'm going to do my best to beat you to completion by August 1st! 位置について、用意、ドン!

  • I love Full Metal Alchemist, it's such a great Anime.

    And friendly competition is always great, let's aim for the sky! o(^o^)o

  • Aomine

    Sounds great, while i want me going for complete immersion, i keep finding that all my usual interests and hobbies, get bested by it's Japanese counterpart. First music, then shows, then food. So i tend to be listening and watching and eating Japanese things anyway. Nonetheless, good luck to you!

  • Thanks for the wish of luck!

    And I know what you mean, Japanese creeps over into a lot of my other interests one way or another as well. ^^;

  • Good stuff all around.

    As you say, anime is a must. Interestingly, I got into anime after starting my Japanese studies, not the other way around like most of my fellow Japanophiles. Have you watched Escaflowne (エスカフローネ) yet? It's my all time fave.

    I've also used Remembering the Kanji, and recommend it to all my readers and listeners. I discuss it more here for those interested:
    http://l2mastery.com/language-...

    I look forward to hearing more about your adventures learning Japanese. Keep up the good work!

  • うん、僕はエスカフローネを見ました。大好きでした。

    ジョンさんは”ひぐらしのなく頃に”を見ましたか?

    Just recently watched the Live Action of it. I had seen the Anime series of it already. The Anime was better, however the Live Action wasn't horrible, but my expectations weren't terribly high either. :P

  • 「ひぐらしのなく頃に」って見たことない。Do you have a link to where I can watch it online?

  • Here are two links to where you can watch it, in case one of them has a broken episode or something:

    1) http://www.animefuel.com/category/h/higurashi-n...
    2) http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/higurashi-no-nak...

    You'll want to watch it in order of:

    1) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
    2) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai
    3) Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei

    Also, you might want to read about it first here. It's very psychological even though it might not look that way. You'll either love it or you'll hate it. :P

  • My method is very similar, 'though I really need to try out point 6! :)

  • Definitely! Let me know what you end up trying out. :D

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